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  JW's a RELIGION based on PERFORMANCE! How dangerous is that???

  by freewilly01 in

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  i have come to realize that this religion is based almost solely on performance and that is the most dangerous.. i always felt that as a person or jw (while an active witness)that i was always just as good as my last assignment, comment at the watchtower meeting, feild service report.. this left me with a huge identity crisis in the borgorg......... i really didn't know who the hell i was?.

  did any of you feel similair?

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  i didn't think much about it then, but now i realize i too was a walking talking proof that the holy spirit appointment is holy crap.

  I had the numbers, so despite or in spite of my 'sins' i was in!

  oz
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  The effect of this religion on my children & the action I had to take - Part II

  by jambon1 in

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  i posted this part of the story earlier this week.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/191112/1/the-effect-of-this-religion-on-my-children-the-action-i-had-to-take-part-i.

  so we are at the point where my daughter has been taking in my lifestyle for 4 years since she i left the truth when she was just 4 years old.

  my son who is a couple of years younger thankfully seems to be immune to most of the indoctrination from the jws.

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  hmmmmmmmmm, now you got me all agitated too!

  i know i have to talk about this sort of thing with mine too. the kids i mean. My ex would gut me with a spoon if it were in the bible.

  i look forward to part 3 and something tells me i wont like it much...

  thankyou for sharing too,

  oz
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  Child access mediation went pretty good...they miss more meetings

  by Aussie Oz in

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  well, some of you may know i have been battling the ex since late last year for better access to the children.. after calling her bluff and actualy getting a lawyer, we had to go to mediation before it could progress to court.. appointment one was postphoned by her so she could get better prepared.

  the session was a total failure with her wanting me to see them less and drive 8 hours over 2 days for visits.

  (we are 2 hours apart).

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  Thankyou all!

  when i got the result i was a bit dumbfounded... i had been all reved up for court! My non money hungry lawyer told me not to come in and go home. So i came home and celebrated by spending money on my hotrod project.

  and sundays will be sooooo good!

  cheers all

  oz
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  Child access mediation went pretty good...they miss more meetings

  by Aussie Oz in

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  well, some of you may know i have been battling the ex since late last year for better access to the children.. after calling her bluff and actualy getting a lawyer, we had to go to mediation before it could progress to court.. appointment one was postphoned by her so she could get better prepared.

  the session was a total failure with her wanting me to see them less and drive 8 hours over 2 days for visits.

  (we are 2 hours apart).

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  Well, some of you may know i have been battling the ex since late last year for better access to the children.

  After calling her bluff and actualy getting a lawyer, we had to go to mediation before it could progress to court.

  Appointment one was postphoned by her so she could get better prepared. The session was a total failure with her wanting me to see them less and drive 8 hours over 2 days for visits. (we are 2 hours apart)

  Appointment two was postphoned by her because our 13 yr old daughter was sunburnt! It was becoming clear she did not want to participate in the process.

  had another mediation yesterday and actually got friday night to sunday arvo and travel pretty much stays the same!

  I could have tried to force more issues but another year of my life would have got consumed by court as well as about 30 grand. by the end, there was a pretty good chance the judge would declare that the 17 year old was out of the picture and that he would not rule on a 14 year old girl, so i accepted the outcome.

  that means the kids miss 50% of all sunday meetings from now on!

  oz
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  Was You a Bethelite, Elder,CO, DO, GB, Publisher, Missionary,Ministerial Servant or Pioneer class?????

  by Scott77 in

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  when still in the watchtower, i used to be an assistant ministerial servant.

  true, there is no such title but its there unofficially for those one step to being a ministerial servant.

  been with it for about three years.

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  was a ministerial servant, regular pioneer serving where the need was greater, regularly gave public talks in local and city congregations, once even interstate, had sister in law in bethel, was excepted to bethel construction and was considered elder material.

  then i started sinning and life has never been better...

  oz
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  WBTS lenient approach, why?

  by african GB Member in

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  in the past when someone was summoned to attend a jc it was almost guaranteed they'd be df'd.

  in recent times however, elders don't just rush to df.

  i have seen teenage baptised unmarried girls fall pregnant and not df'd, but instead had their "priviledges" taken away for a few months.. why this type of approach now?.

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  Remeber, DF is for those UNREPENTANT.

  they either ARE repentant and avoid being DF or

  FAKE repentance and avoid being DF.

  DF has rarely ever been an AUTOMATIC response

  oz
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  How many DF'ed on this board have actually had...

  by tenyearsafter in

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  how many disfellowshipped ones on this board have actually had follow up elder visits "encouraging" them to return to the meetings?.

  i have been df'ed for 15 years now, and i have never had one visit (i am not saying that is a bad thing!

  ) from an elder encouraging me to return to the organization.

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  10 years DF no follow ups. Only very rare door to door contact but seeing as they know i'm DF its usualy an accident! and only one of those rare 3 or 4 times was it an elder doing basic door to door.

  oz
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  Scientology really is a lot like the JW's

  by dissed in

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  at the edge of arid foothills far outside los angeles, hundreds of scientology followers live on a gated, 500-acre campus and work long hours for almost no pay reproducing the works of founder l. ron hubbard and creating the church's teaching and promotional materials.. the church says its 5,000 so-called sea organization members are religious devotees akin to monks who are exempt from wage requirements and overtime.

  but two lawsuits filed by two former sea org members, as they are known, allege the workers are little more than slave laborers, forced to work 100-hour weeks for pennies and threatened with manual labor if they cause trouble.. i don't feel the wt's bethel is quite this bad,...... but it's not far from it.

  (as one who used to work there says) lol.

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  Did anybody see the short 'a current affair' story on them here in Aust last week or two ago? It was not real good, and all the spokes-women did was deny deny deny...

  We have a politician here who keeps pushing for government investigation of the scientologists. Kind off interesting because as the scientologists warned, if they get investigated, it will open the way for all religions to be investigated!

  oz
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  Why is it so hard for Ex-JWs to make that "final step" and give up Christianity?

  by sabastious in

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  i'm not sure if it's just denial on a lot of people's part, but the reason the jws doctrine is so wacky and controlling is because they are among the few religions that really try to follow the bible!.

  the bible is the culprit here in actuality, but even after someone has "wizened up" to the misguided teachings of jehovah's witnesses they still hold the bible as inspired word of god.. why don't you believe that the governing body was chosen as the faithful and discreet slave in 1918?

  because the only real evidence to that fact is that they say so.

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  I dropped christianity like a hot potato. From day one out. However, beating the mind control and imprinting took a lot longer.

  In fact, i have become anti any religion pretty much these days. Religion brings out the worst in human nature i think.

  I have no respect for the god of the bible, to me he is a despot dictater who practices ethnic cleansing at whim. That he would commit mass murder of his own creation at armageddon fills me with disgust.

  so, for me, giving up christianity was easy.

  oz
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  What Do You Value in your Life Now that you Exited the Witnesses ?

  by flipper in

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  i was talking with a friend of mine on the board yesterday and the discussion gave me the idea for this thread !

  ( thanks friend !

  ) and it seems as we were talking the thought came up that many of us when exiting the mind control of jehovah's witnesses we really come to appreciate the freedom to think how we want and be able to have access to other views which helps us to have a broader scope , or broader world view than just the tunnel vision of the wt society.

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  So many things but the biggest would be what i call being able to live the 'authentic me'.

  no more having to fit in a square box, to always have to censure my own mind, to explore my own morality, form my own ideas... you get the picture i'm sure! That somebody loves me for who i am now, not for who they think i should be as well.

  and i must concur with all the above posts as well.

  oz